Venho aqui relatar o meu problema recente.
Tenho uma caixa dsg no meu vw golf 2.0 tdi de 2004, mecanicamente a caixa está ok como sempre esteve.
O problema manifesta-se aleatoriamente, parado ou em andamento, tipicamente com o motor a quente mas nem sempre, desaparece o PRNDS do painel ou fica a piscar, acende a luz do controlo de tração e o carro fica em neutro, por uma vez vi o ponteiro das rpm nas 5000rpm, muito perigoso no transito.
Esperando uns minutos, após rodar a chave tudo funciona por alguns metros.
Analisando a comunicação canbus com um osciloscopio foi possivel ver que a caixa por vezes deixa de enviar o sinal simetrico, ora falha o CANH HI ora o CAN LO.
O vagcom faz diagnostico pelo fio K, e assim consegui ver os erros em tempo real a aparecer. Blocos 225, 226 e 226 (can bus timout) com os resto das ecus canbus. Todas as ecus que comunicam com a caixa indicam "missing message" ou "no communication" com a caixa.
Encontrei oleo dentro da ficha electrica da caixa. Como pensei que fosse algum mal contacto causado pelo oleo, substitui os pinos e os fios CANBUS até um ponto fixo na cablagem.
O problema manteve-se e desta vez nem apareceu oleo na ficha.
Algum já teve um problema semelhante ?
Desconfio da unidade mecatronica, alguem conseguem indicar em Portugal quem repare / venda a mecatronica DSG?
Log VAG-COM:
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 03G-906-016-BKD.lbl
Part No SW: 03G 906 016 AP HW: 028 101 167 2
Component: R4 2,0L EDC G200AG 5876
Revision: 12345678 Serial number: VWZ7Z0D9548749
Coding: 0000078
Shop #: WSC 66565 257 00032
VCID: 71E3A46068B2056
1 Fault Found:
18034 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1626 - 000 - Missing Message from TCU - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Torque: 88.0 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 12.39 V
Bin. Bits: 00101100
Bin. Bits: 00000000
Bin. Bits: 10000100
Readiness: 0 1 0 0 1
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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 02E-300-0xx.lbl
Part No SW: 02E 300 041 K HW: 02E 927 770 L
Component: GSG DSG 0702
Revision: 02904010 Serial number: 00000404020458
Coding: 0000020
Shop #: WSC 00028 028 08192
VCID: 1A31A3CCD584A6E
10 Faults Found:
28775 - No Communication with Gear Selector Module
U0103 - 000 - - Intermittent - MIL ON
18260 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1852 - 000 - Implausible Message ECU - Intermittent - MIL ON
00511 - Selector Lever (E313)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
18262 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1854 - 000 - Hardware Malfunction - Intermittent - MIL ON
18288 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1880 - 000 - Missing Message from Diagnostic Gateway - Intermittent
18082 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1674 - 000 - Implausible Message from Instrument Cluster - Intermittent
18261 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1853 - 000 - Implausible Message from ABS Controller - Intermittent
18258 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1850 - 000 - Missing Message from ECU - Intermittent
00653 - Selector Lever/Auto Trans Plausibility
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
18270 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1862 - 000 - Missing Message from Instrument Cluster - Intermittent
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
Part No: 1K0 907 379 K
Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0103
Coding: 0006786
Shop #: WSC 00028 028 08192
VCID: 3A71434C754486E
1 Fault Found:
01315 - Transmission Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
Part No: 1K0 907 044 AB
Component: ClimatronicPQ35 066 0404
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 67D7CA385676CB6
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 937 049 T HW: 1K0 937 049 T*
Component: Bordnetz-SG 1.0 H30 0704
Revision: 00030000 Serial number: 00000000629806
Coding: E5880FB600041800641900001914646464
Shop #: WSC 00028 028 08192
VCID: 408531A41398DCE
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 B Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer VW350 012 0401
Coding: 00065493
Shop #: WSC 00028
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 M Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
Component: RegenLichtSens 005 0605
Coding: 00465172
Shop #: WSC 00028
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 D HW: 1K0 909 605 D
Component: 01 AIRBAG VW8 022 0600
Revision: 05022000 Serial number: 0033JD0BHZ5K
Coding: 0012337
Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
VCID: 2D5B7810B40A216
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 B HW: 1K0 953 549 B
Component: Lenksäulenmodul 007 X520
Coding: 0012142
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 31636460A832456
Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: Lenkradmodul 007 0050
1 Fault Found:
00002 - Transmission Control Unit
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No: 1K0 920 870 L
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 3354
Coding: 0007101
Shop #: WSC 00018 261 56593
VCID: 32616B6CAD347EE
1 Fault Found:
01315 - Transmission Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 E HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: Gateway H09 0110
Revision: 09 Serial number: 27001051180B43
Coding: 7F3F0F48070002
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 12345
VCID: 29538C0080E23D6
1 Fault Found:
01315 - Transmission Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 246
Mileage: 123396 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 16:17:45
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No: 1K0 920 870 L
Component: IMMO 3354
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 32616B6CAD347EE
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 37: Navigation Labels: 1T0-919-887.lbl
Part No: 1T0 919 887 B
Component: Navigation 0321
Coding: 0000004
Shop #: WSC 00028 028 08192
VCID: 418334A01892D56
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MAX1.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 701 G
Component: Tuersteuergeraet 09 0115
Coding: 0000118
Shop #: WSC 00028 028 08192
VCID: 32616B6CAD347EE
No fault code found.
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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
Part No: 1K1 909 144 F
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.7 1301
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2E597F1CB90C5AE
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
Part No: 1K0 959 433 T
Component: 0W KSG 0560
Coding: 19E802403F00050DC84FCA7000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 418334A01892D56
Part No: 1K0 907 719 B
Component: Neigungssensor 004 0003
Part No: 1K0 951 177
Component: Innenraumueberw.004 0101
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MAX1.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 702 G
Component: Tuersteuergeraet 09 0115
Coding: 0000118
Shop #: WSC 00028 028 08192
VCID: 336F6E68522E776
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio Labels: 1T0-035-095.lbl
Part No: 1T0 035 095
Component: Radio 0321
Coding: 0005402
Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
VCID: EBDF3608CA9E6F6
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN1.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 703 C
Component: Tuersteuergeraet 06 0202
Coding: 0000016
Shop #: WSC 00028 028 08192
VCID: 30656164A3384CE
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN1.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 704 C
Component: Tuersteuergeraet 06 0202
Coding: 0000016
Shop #: WSC 00028 028 08192
VCID: 31636460A832456
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 76: Park Assist Labels: 1K0-919-283.lbl
Part No: 1K0 919 283 A
Component: 01 Einparkhilfe 0101
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2D5B7810B40A216
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 7D: Aux. Heat Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 C HW: 1K0 963 235 C
Component: PTC-Element 0404
Revision: 00600000 Serial number:
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2B5F76088A1E2F6
No fault code found.
End ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Tenho uma caixa dsg no meu vw golf 2.0 tdi de 2004, mecanicamente a caixa está ok como sempre esteve.
O problema manifesta-se aleatoriamente, parado ou em andamento, tipicamente com o motor a quente mas nem sempre, desaparece o PRNDS do painel ou fica a piscar, acende a luz do controlo de tração e o carro fica em neutro, por uma vez vi o ponteiro das rpm nas 5000rpm, muito perigoso no transito.
Esperando uns minutos, após rodar a chave tudo funciona por alguns metros.
Analisando a comunicação canbus com um osciloscopio foi possivel ver que a caixa por vezes deixa de enviar o sinal simetrico, ora falha o CANH HI ora o CAN LO.
O vagcom faz diagnostico pelo fio K, e assim consegui ver os erros em tempo real a aparecer. Blocos 225, 226 e 226 (can bus timout) com os resto das ecus canbus. Todas as ecus que comunicam com a caixa indicam "missing message" ou "no communication" com a caixa.
Encontrei oleo dentro da ficha electrica da caixa. Como pensei que fosse algum mal contacto causado pelo oleo, substitui os pinos e os fios CANBUS até um ponto fixo na cablagem.
O problema manteve-se e desta vez nem apareceu oleo na ficha.
Algum já teve um problema semelhante ?
Desconfio da unidade mecatronica, alguem conseguem indicar em Portugal quem repare / venda a mecatronica DSG?
Log VAG-COM:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine Labels: 03G-906-016-BKD.lbl
Part No SW: 03G 906 016 AP HW: 028 101 167 2
Component: R4 2,0L EDC G200AG 5876
Revision: 12345678 Serial number: VWZ7Z0D9548749
Coding: 0000078
Shop #: WSC 66565 257 00032
VCID: 71E3A46068B2056
1 Fault Found:
18034 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1626 - 000 - Missing Message from TCU - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Torque: 88.0 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 12.39 V
Bin. Bits: 00101100
Bin. Bits: 00000000
Bin. Bits: 10000100
Readiness: 0 1 0 0 1
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 02E-300-0xx.lbl
Part No SW: 02E 300 041 K HW: 02E 927 770 L
Component: GSG DSG 0702
Revision: 02904010 Serial number: 00000404020458
Coding: 0000020
Shop #: WSC 00028 028 08192
VCID: 1A31A3CCD584A6E
10 Faults Found:
28775 - No Communication with Gear Selector Module
U0103 - 000 - - Intermittent - MIL ON
18260 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1852 - 000 - Implausible Message ECU - Intermittent - MIL ON
00511 - Selector Lever (E313)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
18262 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1854 - 000 - Hardware Malfunction - Intermittent - MIL ON
18288 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1880 - 000 - Missing Message from Diagnostic Gateway - Intermittent
18082 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1674 - 000 - Implausible Message from Instrument Cluster - Intermittent
18261 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1853 - 000 - Implausible Message from ABS Controller - Intermittent
18258 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1850 - 000 - Missing Message from ECU - Intermittent
00653 - Selector Lever/Auto Trans Plausibility
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
18270 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1862 - 000 - Missing Message from Instrument Cluster - Intermittent
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
Part No: 1K0 907 379 K
Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0103
Coding: 0006786
Shop #: WSC 00028 028 08192
VCID: 3A71434C754486E
1 Fault Found:
01315 - Transmission Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
Part No: 1K0 907 044 AB
Component: ClimatronicPQ35 066 0404
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 67D7CA385676CB6
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 937 049 T HW: 1K0 937 049 T*
Component: Bordnetz-SG 1.0 H30 0704
Revision: 00030000 Serial number: 00000000629806
Coding: E5880FB600041800641900001914646464
Shop #: WSC 00028 028 08192
VCID: 408531A41398DCE
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 B Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer VW350 012 0401
Coding: 00065493
Shop #: WSC 00028
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 M Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
Component: RegenLichtSens 005 0605
Coding: 00465172
Shop #: WSC 00028
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 D HW: 1K0 909 605 D
Component: 01 AIRBAG VW8 022 0600
Revision: 05022000 Serial number: 0033JD0BHZ5K
Coding: 0012337
Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
VCID: 2D5B7810B40A216
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 B HW: 1K0 953 549 B
Component: Lenksäulenmodul 007 X520
Coding: 0012142
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 31636460A832456
Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: Lenkradmodul 007 0050
1 Fault Found:
00002 - Transmission Control Unit
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No: 1K0 920 870 L
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 3354
Coding: 0007101
Shop #: WSC 00018 261 56593
VCID: 32616B6CAD347EE
1 Fault Found:
01315 - Transmission Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 E HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: Gateway H09 0110
Revision: 09 Serial number: 27001051180B43
Coding: 7F3F0F48070002
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 12345
VCID: 29538C0080E23D6
1 Fault Found:
01315 - Transmission Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 246
Mileage: 123396 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 16:17:45
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No: 1K0 920 870 L
Component: IMMO 3354
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 32616B6CAD347EE
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 37: Navigation Labels: 1T0-919-887.lbl
Part No: 1T0 919 887 B
Component: Navigation 0321
Coding: 0000004
Shop #: WSC 00028 028 08192
VCID: 418334A01892D56
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MAX1.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 701 G
Component: Tuersteuergeraet 09 0115
Coding: 0000118
Shop #: WSC 00028 028 08192
VCID: 32616B6CAD347EE
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
Part No: 1K1 909 144 F
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.7 1301
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2E597F1CB90C5AE
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
Part No: 1K0 959 433 T
Component: 0W KSG 0560
Coding: 19E802403F00050DC84FCA7000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 418334A01892D56
Part No: 1K0 907 719 B
Component: Neigungssensor 004 0003
Part No: 1K0 951 177
Component: Innenraumueberw.004 0101
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MAX1.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 702 G
Component: Tuersteuergeraet 09 0115
Coding: 0000118
Shop #: WSC 00028 028 08192
VCID: 336F6E68522E776
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio Labels: 1T0-035-095.lbl
Part No: 1T0 035 095
Component: Radio 0321
Coding: 0005402
Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
VCID: EBDF3608CA9E6F6
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN1.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 703 C
Component: Tuersteuergeraet 06 0202
Coding: 0000016
Shop #: WSC 00028 028 08192
VCID: 30656164A3384CE
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN1.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 704 C
Component: Tuersteuergeraet 06 0202
Coding: 0000016
Shop #: WSC 00028 028 08192
VCID: 31636460A832456
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 76: Park Assist Labels: 1K0-919-283.lbl
Part No: 1K0 919 283 A
Component: 01 Einparkhilfe 0101
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2D5B7810B40A216
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 7D: Aux. Heat Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 C HW: 1K0 963 235 C
Component: PTC-Element 0404
Revision: 00600000 Serial number:
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2B5F76088A1E2F6
No fault code found.
End ---------------------------------------------------------------------
